In the first moments of his bilingual talk earlier this week as part of the San Miguel PEN’s Winter Lecture series, renowned journalist Jorge Ramos (58) admitted he has spent most of his adult life “looking for home.”
A Mexican by birth and a United States citizen by choice, Ramos — who now lives in Miami and is the nightly television anchor at Univision, as well as a bestselling author and winner of eight Emmy awards for excellence in journalism — may be best known to most American news followers who are not regular Univision viewers as the Latino journalist who was physically ejected from a press conference held by Donald Trump on the campaign trail in Dubuque, Iowa, in late 2015.
At the PEN lecture, Ramos showed a short clip from that confrontation:
When Ramos stood to ask Trump a question about immigration, Trump brashly told him to “sit down!” then, “go back to Univision!” then signaled to one of his security men to show Ramos the door.
Outside of the room, a towering, middle-aged white man with an angry red face, shouted at Ramos, “Get out of my country!”
“This IS my country,” Ramos countered. “I’m a U.S. citizen too.” Ramos has lived, legally, in the U.S. since he graduated from college in the early 1980s.
As was always the case at similar lectures and readings I often attended in Taos, New Mexico, when I lived there, this large auditorium at the beautiful Bellas Artes cultural center here in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, was filled to overflowing with mostly gray-haired, retirement-age attendees. (Where, I wondered then and wonder now, are the younger people at these consciousness-raising events?) Ramos stood alone on the bare stage, holding a microphone and speaking in calm, even tones in both English and Spanish.
“Donald Trump wanted me to do three things: shut up, sit down, and go away. But I think we have to take a stand. As Elie Wiesel said, ‘We must take sides. Neutrality only helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.’”
That Dubuque press conference incident inspired Ramos to create a documentary titled “Hate Rising,” which focused on hate across the U.S. and aired on Univision in October of last year. He played a short portion of this documentary, too, at the PEN event:
In the dead of night, somewhere in the deep South, Ramos sits across from a burly Ku Klux Klan spokesperson, flanked by his black-hooded, armed bodyguards. What looks like a bonfire flickers in the background, outlining the facing profiles of Ramos and his interviewee. The mood is tense. The KKK spokesman spouts white-supremacist rhetoric — along the lines of, “Of course white people are superior!” — unable or unwilling to answer Ramos’s soft-spoken but probing questions, such as, Why do you think that? That interview was short-lived, and the viewer is relieved to know that Ramos got out of it alive.
Ramos is the author of a dozen books, the most recent of which is titled Take a Stand, in which he argues that journalists “have a moral obligation to tell the truth to power.”
As both a journalist and a Mexican immigrant, for Ramos the issue of immigration, now hotter than ever, is clearly near to his heart; and he is an unapologetic advocate for immigrants’ rights. But he is also deeply grateful for all that he’s been given in the U.S. “The United States gave me opportunities that my country of origin could not,” he said, “freedom of the press and complete freedom of expression.” Along with that gratitude, he expressed genuine optimism that things will, in time, improve.
Was it my imagination, or did I also detect a slight, quiet, aching note as well, when he said, “I’m still looking for home”?
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For an excellent, in-depth profile of Jorge Ramos by William Finnegan, go to “The Man Who Wouldn’t Sit Down,” in the October 5, 2015, issue of the New Yorker online.
Love this, Bonnie. So relevant.
Thank you, Arti! Wish you could have been here in person to see and hear him too. — xx
He was profound, I was enormously affected by his talk. The video of the Ku Klux Klan leader interview, with the burning swastika in the background, is something that I will never forget. Thank you, Bonnie, you have written something very important here.
Thanks so much for your kind comments, Patrice! Yes, I forgot to mention the burning swastika! That was chilling, too. So glad you liked what I reported. — Abrazos, BB
Bonnie, this poignant, important post needs to go further than just to your loyal subscribers. It’s a lovely bit of reporting and writing. Wish I’d been there among the gray-haired.
Thank you, Barb dear! Yes, I wish you’d been there with me too. As for getting more people to see and read this post, I’m at a loss. I posted it on FB, and only one out of my 550+ “friends” have read it so far. People are overwhelmed by reading matter online, I think. But if you know anyone who knows Jorge Ramos, I’d love to send it to him! 🙂
Thank you for this mention, Sallie! And I’m so glad to learn that Santa Fe “did it”! Bravo!
Post it on Ramos’ FB page, and Univision’s FB page.
Thank you for this tip, Bonnie MacLaird! I will follow through. (I’m so bad at these social-networking things.)
Dear Bonnie MacLaird — I tried to follow up on your suggestion but couldn’t figure out HOW to post it on their pages. If you could do it for me, I’d be so grateful. Just use the link: http://www.blog.bonnieleeblack.com/. Thanks so much! — BB
I tried in vain to get a ticket the second that I heard he was going to be here in SMA. I was so frustrated to not get to hear him and then heard it was sold out before it was announced! How can that be? Anyway, glad you got in to see this man on a mission. IF you post the blog to your page on FB, if you have one, then people will click on it there and read it, hopefully. I do have you on my Blogroll as well.
Thanks for this, Babs. Yes, it was an overflowing crowd there. They set up seats outside of the auditorium for the overflow. He’s a popular guy! I did, in fact, place this WOW post on FB. A few people saw it there. So glad you’ve put my WOW on your Blogroll.